MyDD :: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap: 19

Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap: 19

by kindthoughts, Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:36:00 PM EST

Since the beginning of the week Obama picked up 6 superdelegates one of whom switched from Clinton to Obama reducing the gap down by 7 superdelegates in 4 days.

Obama:
+ DC Add-on Harry Thomas, Jr. (switched from Clinton)
+ Oklahoma Add-on Reggie Whitten
+ North Carolina Rep. David Price
+ North Carolina Rep. Mel Watt
+ Indiana Rep. Andre Carson
+ Minnesota DNC Nancy Larson

Clinton:
- DC Add-on Harry Thomas, Jr. (switched to Obama)
+ California Rep. Jackie Speier
| California DNC Aleita Huguenin is still linton, not uncommitted as reported before

Totals:
Clinton: 251
Obama: 232

source

Hopefully tomorrow we can get some more.
On the whole a good week for Obama.

And still no giant superdelegate shift in sight.

Tags: obama, clinton, superdelegates (all tags)

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Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

Yeah -

But after Obama loses Penna by 15% that will change.

by johnnygunn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:49:22 PM EST

Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

just like after Texas and Ohio?

I should find that Penn quote, that said after PA Hillary would only be behind 20 delegates, infact I will search for it.

Congratulations to Barack Obama, the presumptive Presumptive Democratic Nominee

by TruthMatters on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:58:59 PM EST
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It's all about Guam. (2.00 / 1)

by dystopianfuturetoday on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:15:59 PM EST
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Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

In other news, due to provisionals and absentee ballots, Obama managed to pass the threshold to get another pledged delegate out of Ohio. So instead of Clinton winning that state's delegates 75-66, she wins 74-67, a net gain of only 7 delegates.

by Skaje on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:30:41 PM EST
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Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

Skaje, Hey can you give a source please.

Thanks.

by PatrickBradish on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:50:34 PM EST
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Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

From dailykos.

Nothing else yet, but the diarist is a longtime dailykos user (UID in the four digits). We should be seeing other sources soon.

by Skaje on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:59:16 PM EST
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Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

Terrible math you have there. Clinton is ahead by +25 supers and gained 3 supers last.

Obama has nothing to boast about. So get off your high horse.

Steven Shaman Publisher Skywatch-Media News

by steve468 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:10:38 PM EST

Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

where do you get this count from?

Congratulations to Barack Obama, the presumptive Presumptive Democratic Nominee

by TruthMatters on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:13:07 PM EST
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Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

It's from Mr. Roger's Neighborhood of Makebelieve.

No link necessary.

Let the children lose it Let the children use it Let all the children boogie

by toyomama on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:29:46 PM EST
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no there is not (none / 0)

I am discussing the gap.

She gained 1, lost 1 and one was that was hers and there was a misreport as uncommited was reconfirmed as hers.

How is she up by 25? Are you ignoring the delegates he just gained? And Obama is not boasting, I am just reporting the super delegates updates..

-- be excellent to each other

by kindthoughts on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:13:42 PM EST
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Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

Where do you go for your info.

You may want to try demconwatch.blogspot.com.

They only count super endorsements when they have sources and they provide the links so you can see for yourself. It's a great site.

They have Clinton with a 22 super lead.

Obama picked up 5 in the past two days.

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/ superdelegate-list.html

by PatrickBradish on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:29:37 PM EST
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Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

CQPolitics has an excellent analysis of the PA race and according to their calculations of each Congressional district, a 15 pt Clinton victory nets her 12 pledge delegates.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?do cID=news-000002703375&cpage=1

Regarding the supers, there is a clear trend line here. The following numbers and dates show the erosion of Clinton's superdelegate lead: (From Demconwatch which has different totals than AP and others which were cited above)

97 2-10
64 2-24
47 3-2
34 3-30
22 today

There is a pretty good probability that Clinton will pick up a number of PA supers after Tuesday. But don't be too sure. She has only gained endorsements from 1 of 7 Ohio representatives. And 1 of 10 Ohio DNC members. (Obama has 4 DNC endorsements and 5 remain uncommitted.)

There are 6 supers left in PA, 5 of them reps, several of which represent Congressional districts Obama will probably win.

North Carolina two weeks later has 8 supers remaining, and Obama will probably match whatever Clinton gains after PA. Indiana only has 4 supers remaining. And an IN rep just endorsed Obama yesterday.

by PatrickBradish on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:26:18 PM EST

Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

I keep waiting for the supers to start moving to Clinton (as her supporters keep telling us they will), but it doesn't happen. 90% of the superdelegates she has lined up behind her before the contests even started. Obama is the candidate who has been drawing them due to how he is campaigning.

Clinton looks likely to win Pennsylvania by 8% and net a dozen delegates, I'm sure the supers will be very impressed with that. After that, how else is she going to turn this contest around? West Virginia? Kentucky? Puerto Rico?

by Skaje on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:35:13 PM EST
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Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

Dean came out and put the hammer down today. Time for the supers to decide. No more holding out.

"An increasingly firm Howard Dean told CNN again Thursday that he needs superdelegates to say who they're for - and "I need them to say who they're for starting now."

"We cannot give up two or three months of active campaigning and healing time," the Democratic National Committee Chairman told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "We've got to know who our nominee is."

Patrick

by PatrickBradish on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:52:43 PM EST
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Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

...Divine Intervention?

Let the children lose it Let the children use it Let all the children boogie

by toyomama on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:32:04 PM EST
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More info on PA supers (none / 0)

Regarding remaining supers in PA, there are 5 reps still uncommitted.

Brady and Doyle are in the 1st and 14th Congressional districts (CDs) and CQPolitics predicts Obama will win both. Altmire is in the 4th CD and CQPolitics predicts a Clinton win.

Carney and Holden are in the 10th and 17th CDs and they are both close, so CQPolitics is predicting they will both net 2 PDs each from each district.

The point is we shouldn't anticipate that Clinton will sweep the remaining PA supers after her win next week.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?do cID=news-000002703375&cpage=2

Patrick

by PatrickBradish on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:44:28 PM EST

Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

The gap in super delegates between Obama and Clinton is now +19 for Clinton. Of those superdelegates, Obama is now ahead in elected superdelegates (those who have to answer to the voters). I think he is ahead +2 in those. (In case this isn't clear, non-elected superdelegates would be those who do not hold public office decided by voters: former presidents, party officials, etc.).

Everything continues to go Obama and I don't see that changing. The only question is when it will reach a tipping point.

by DrPolitics on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:47:59 PM EST

Re: Superdelegates: Obama +6, Clinton: +1, -1, Gap (none / 0)

A friend saw Chuck Todd at the midwest political science association meeting in Chicago a few weeks ago.

Todd gave a talk and said that people should have noticed how FEW superdelegates Clinton started out with. If she was really favored by the party, her initial count should have been around 400 superdelegates, maybe 450. The much lower count showed that party folks had real reservations about her candidacy.

I thought that was very interesting and it seems that this is backed by the fact that Obama leads in superdelegates who are elected officials.

In the Senate, he has 17 Senators supporting him (all are superdelegates, of course), while Clinton is supported by 13. That tells you a lot right there.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:36:51 PM EST

But they don't matter (none / 0)

Because some day The Superdelegates (all of 'em) will LEARN that Obama CANNOT beat John McCain and they will ALL save our party from ruin. I'm not sure when that'll happen. But it will! I just know it! I can FEEL it!

by elrod on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:48:20 PM EST

Re: But they don't matter (none / 0)

Now that's just good schtick right there.

Government derives its power from those that it governs.

by lockewasright on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 01:40:35 AM EST
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